Todd: Rachel, I thought we would talk a little bit about items and their shelf life, like how long will you keep something? For example, like a book or clothing, because yesterday I was talking to my students and they were surprised when I admitted that the shirt I was wearing, I had had for over 10 years. Now, they're young and they can't imagine that.
Rachel: No, that might be a function of being young.
Todd: Right, exactly.
Rachel: Because their clothes of 10 years ago are obviously too small.
Rachel: It depends on the clothes.
Todd: Do you like to keep your clothes a long time?
Rachel: If I really like them, I might.
Todd: Yeah. How often do you toss out your clothes?
Rachel: I toss out clothes once or twice a year. I'll go through my wardrobe and throw outthings that are too small or have started to look shabby. But there are other things that I just keep year after year after year, probably things people don't see as often like pajamas might last a little longer.
Rachel: Some people advise that if you haven't worn something for six months, you should throw it out, but that seems to me to be not logical, given that there are four seasons and they last a year. If you haven't worn something for a year, maybe you should consider throwing it out. But yeah, definitely, at the start of the season, not in the opposite season. You have to think about the weather.
Todd: Yeah. What about food? We live in Japan. We're both teachers in Japan. One thing I often wonder about is the sashimi and the sushi, the raw fish. How long can you keep it before you eat it? They say you're supposed to have it that night, but I sometimes eat it the next morning or even for lunch.
Rachel: With fish, as well as other meats, I think it's very easy to tell, because you can tell by the smell whether something's good or not. I actually think that rice is more dangerous.
Todd: Oh really?
Rachel: Yeah, because it will grow bacteria. Because it's been warm, it will grow bacteria easily at room temperature. The rice is the part you need to be careful about.
Todd: Oh. Well what about other foods? Like are you somebody who's really strict about the expiration date?
Rachel: I'm not. I think the expiration date on most products errs on the side of safety. And another thing is people confuse the best by date with the expiring date.
Rachel: The best by date is just about freshness, flavor. For example with spices ...
Todd: And that's the date they put on the package in the store.
Rachel: That's often the date that people go by.
Todd: Sell by, yeah.
Rachel: Yeah, sell by and best by. For example spices might have a best by date. After that, they might plump a little, they might lose a little flavor, but they're not dangerous.
蕾切尔：嗯，保质期和最 佳食用日期。比如，调料可能会标明最 佳食用日期。后面可能还会标注：它们可能会损失一点儿味道，但不构成危险。
Todd: You can still eat it.
Rachel: You can still use them, yeah.